Re: DSM: objective source of evidence


Christopher Weeks (clweeks@eclipse.net)
Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:11:52 -0400


Alan or Laura Gabelsberg wrote:

> When talking with other adults, and trying to explain SVS model, it would be
> nice to point to some kind of "objective" evidence about the results that

Or real evidence at all. I'm through the first three books, four VHS tapes, and
five audio tapes from my SVS planning kit and I still don't have data to
retell. Maybe it's in there somewhere and I'll find it, but I'm still looking.
Things like 80% of grads go to further education is nice, but I'd actually like
to see the number of grads, a breakdown by current profession (I know that you
can't know them all at this point), and numbers that went on to: college (which
ones?), grad/professional schools, vocational education, military service, a
job, etc. I think this kind of data (at least if it paints a rosy picture)
would be quite valuable to Sudbury model startups.

> the school produces in terms of the skills and "success" rates of its
> graduates. (I know I know - this really can not be measured.)

It can be described.

> I have been reading Kingdom of Childhood and The Sudbury Valley Experience
> and they both explain a lot in terms of the change of thinking involved when
> dealing with SVS, but reading this material which is printed by the school
> itself requires one to just take their word for it on the success of its
> graduates. While that's not a problem necessarily for me,

I know exactly what you mean. The idea of freedom has just been clicking over
the years for me, and has clicked strongly in the last six months, but most
people have reactions ranging from skeptical to hostile when I talk about it.

Christopher Weeks



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