Re: DSM: Education/Science


Eduardo Cortina (cortinae@juno.com)
Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:53:35 -0500


Dear everyone on this discussion about rightness and freedom:

I read once in a book a quote that went something like this:

"Being right is a destination, I am merely on a journey."

It was actually a Star Wars novel. In light of the work I do (I'm a
massage therapist/bodyworker/T'ai Chi and martial artist instructor and
in a training to become an Alexander Technique teacher) this made a lot
of sense to me. When people try to be "right" they are literally
arriving at a fixed place. And its not just mental, it is a
psychophysical rigidity. Being on the journey, to me is freedom, and
that also implies venturing into the unknown.

In terms of my martial arts training and practice, I find that these
people get upset easily, and are very easy to manipulate. Poeple who are
more psychophysically flexible do not get un centered as easily, and when
they do they can learn from it more quickly.

Also thought I'd mention that it may be that adults who support the
model, but didn't get the opportunity to actually experience it as
students, not staff may have more of a tendency to be rigid in their
thinking about the model. I've definitely noticed this within myself
(having not had the privilege to attend a SM school). For me it was
finding something that finally made sense, and so oftentimes I felt and
feel like this is right, this is it, accompanied with a bitterness toward
the system that I actually was a part of. I think the needing to be
rightness comes out of the anger for the traditional system that we all
had to endure. Anyway, this could open up a whole other discussion about
adults who support the model's perspective vs. students of the model's
perspective on the model.

I guess I'm mentioning this in response to Stephanie's last post,
because it might give you some perspective on why some adults (me
included) might have a tendency to want to be right about the SVM, or get
rigid at times in our arguments.

--Eduardo
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:55:46 -0800 (PST) Stephanie Miller
<stepx2000@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> --- Avenfeliz1@aol.com wrote:
> > In a message dated 12/14/00 11:02:42 AM Eastern
> > Standard Time,
> > dawn@harkness.net writes:
> >
> > << Kathleen, I believe my record of accurately
> > quoting sources remains wicked
> > good, as we say in northern New England.
> >
> > On 12-12-2000 at 10:07 pm you wrote "It wasn't a
> > minority whining
> > about "the white man keeping me down." When I
> > wrote, "For all protests to
> > the contrary, I believe this was a case of someone
> > inferring, "the white man
> > is keeping me down" what I quoted was accurate, I
> > just disagreed with you.
> > In the vernacular this means : just cause you say
> > it ain't so doesn't mean
> > it ain't so. I did not misquote you.
> > >>
> >
> > Dawn,
> > If it's so damned important to you to be right, I
> > will give it to you.
> > You're right, ok?
> > Now, can we talk about the model?
> > Kathleen
>
> Dawn,
> That you took all the time to prove your "rightness"
> is absolutely sickening to me. Are you actually a
> Sudbury advocate? You have little to no respect for
> other people. My hope is that you respect children
> more than you respect adults.
> I believe you "did" take that quote out of context to
> suit your needs.
> Steph
>
>
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