Jonathan Cender (email@example.com)
Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:48:29 -0800 (PST)
Another ditto. Please don't mistake my silence for
aloofness or support or whatever either, Robert. To
the extent that you desire an institutionalized
administration of your ideas to students - it is not
the Sudbury model. Individuals who choose to follow
Pearce's ideas would presumably be able to enroll/work
and participate in a Sudbury model school, and in a
respectful, noncoercive way influence others at the
school. Agree? And if you(Robert) started a school
you could model Pearce's ideas, but it would not be a
Subury school if you "imposed" (instituted) more than
the Sudbury model - (i.e. Student initiated learning,
democratic principles, etc.)
--- "Dawn F. Harkness" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Big ditto on that one, Mike! I'm not shy about
> controversy, but I have no
> stomach for engaging posts which advocate
> dismantling the Sudbury model to
> reflect some beliefs I do not value. Joe has so
> much more patience than I
> do and I admire his tireless efforts!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Sadofsky <email@example.com>
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Date: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: DSM: Simple solution
> >JJ has presented a pretty thorough response that
> supports my
> >rationale for NOT engaging in this thread.
> >Joe Jackson wrote:
> >> > Yes, it is belief. If I had done the scientific
> experiments myself or
> >> > followed the studies for something like 25
> years as Pearce has,
> >> Pearce's beliefs are just beliefs, too, Robert.
> >> > then I could
> >> > say I have experience, not just belief.
> >> They would still just be beliefs. They would be
> beliefs supported by
> >> experience, but still just beliefs. When you get
> so tied to beliefs that
> >> you go on a listserve and suggest extravagant
> adjustments to the Sudbury
> >> Model and then rail about the unwillingness of
> schools to try them while
> >> they're trying to explain to you why it would
> violate the model, that's
> >> it's time to realize my and your and Pearce's
> beliefs are just beliefs.
> >remainder snipped
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